Sunday gets interesting again
Tim Russert had John Kerry on Meet the Press today. Kerry's sore throat was slightly less distracting then the fact that he kept licking his lips. I know my comment has nothing to do with the substance of his appearance, but when you're watchin a talk show on a large screen tv, it's what you notice most. He also babbled about how much momentum he's gathering, which is a sad euphemism for "I got money, I should have momentum, where did all my supporters go?"
Then Tim had a roundtable discussion, which was rather interesting. One of their topics was the impact of blogging on the election. Here's Tim in his own words:
MR. RUSSERT: He [Dean] now loves Iowa. One of the things that we will find out is just how truly effective is the Internet in this presidential race? Johns Hopkins University has already been studying it. Look at this:
"The Use Of Blogs In The 2004 Presidential Election," a study by Johns Hopkins University. And now for the computer illiterate crowd, this is a blog. This is Howard Dean's blog. Here's Wesley Clark's blog. Here's George W. Bush's blog. And here to help us is Chuck Todd of National Journals Hotline. What is a blog.
Then Chuck Todd reminded us that blog stands for web log and said some other completely not interesting "facts" about bloggers not liking traditional media outlets, yadda yadda.
then:
MR. RUSSERT: In effect, it's a cyber-bulletin board.
MR. TODD: Yeah, exactly.
MR. RUSSERT: But now people who don?t like Howard Dean have occasionally gone up there and said some negative things and they are called trolls.
MR. TODD: You love this term, don't you?
MR. RUSSERT: Correct?
MR. TODD: Yes, it is the term.
MR. RUSSERT: Roger Simon, when I say troll, I think of you.
MR. SIMON: Well, thank you very much.
MR. TODD: You're a blogger, Simon.
MR. RUSSERT: But you're a blogger.
MR. SIMON: I am a blogger sort of. I mean, the difference between. Look, a true blog is I woke up this morning, I decided to skip chem class, now I want to write about the last episode of "Friends." That's what blogs are. You know, it's people talking to each other. My site is actually written columns. There's a difference between writing and typing basically. Well, I mean, the theory between blogging is half correct. It's everybody has an opinion and then the other half is: And everyone else wants to read about it. That's not necessarily true. When I first put up the site, it got all these responses. I thought people wanted me to respond to them. They don't. They want to talk to each other. And that has been the power that Dean has tapped into.
Here's a link to Roger's blog.
they talked some more and then:
MR. RUSSERT: You know, it's so striking to me. When we had the big Internet bubble and everyone was saying, "The Internet's the wave of the future and all the brick-and-mortar businesses are in trouble?" and the AOL Time Warner merger and on and on, and suddenly people said, "How do we make money off the Internet?" The question here is: Will the people who use the Internet, and talk to the blogs, will they show up on caucus night? Will they show up to vote? We have not seen it. We do not know. If they do, Howard Dean will win big. Ironically in all this, I was reading New Yorker magazine the other night, and at the end of 2002, Howard Dean himself said, "What?s a blog?"
MR. TODD: Ooh. But, yeah.
MR. RUSSERT: He did not know much about the Internet. It's Joe Trippi, his campaign manager, who actually surfs the Net, reads the blogs and steals?not steals, borrows?ideas from them. Right.
MR. TODD: I'll give you one that he took. I was fascinated one time when he had this whole phone-banking idea asking these young Dean volunteers to use their unused cell phone minutes from the weekend to make calls on the weekend to undecided Iowa supporters. This was, like, months ago. And I asked the campaign about it and Trippi said, "Oh, we got it from the blog."
MR. BROWNSTEIN: I think the one thing we know that's lasting, sorry, Roger, is that this has clearly provided a new way of raising money. I mean, Howard Dean is following in the footsteps of moveon.org, the liberal online advocacy groups. And both of them have demonstrated that you can raise very large sums of money from small donors who, in effect, give on the installment plan, Tim. They come back again and again. If Howard Dean wins Iowa or New Hampshire, his ability to then turn to his base, very few of whom have given the maximum, and raise a very large sum of money very quickly is a significant tactical advantage in this race, and I think every candidate from here on in is going to have a major Internet fund-raising strategy.
MR. RUSSERT: Well, looking at these blogs, I was somewhat taken by the similarity. David, your paper, The Washington Post, has an article by David Von Drehle talking about how similar they are. And he has a wonderful line. He said, "Immature poets imitate," said T.S. Eliot. "Mature poets steal." But when you think about the Internet, in 1992, the race of Bill Clinton and former President Bush, there were about 50 pages on the World Wide Net. There are now five billion. For someone who's covered politics a long time, what is your sense of the Internet? And how much of a role is it playing in this election?
MR. BRODER: Well, I am not and I never have blogged, and I'm going to get to the end of my career without blogging. I think...
MR. RUSSERT: Are you now or have you ever been a blogger, Broder?
MR. TODD: DavidBroder.com, we?'e going to...
MR. BRODER: No, but I think it's a tremendous tool, and it's part of what is the healthiest trend in our politics, which is going back to personal communication, away from the mass media. Forgive me, NBC. But I think the healthiest thing that's going on now is people talking to people, either through the Internet or, as we're seeing on the ground in Iowa, face-to-face communication.
they babbled some more and then Tim said something I didn't understand:
MR. RUSSERT: We have to take a quick break. We'll be right back with more of our roundtable. And, Big Russ, don't go near the blog.
Who's Big Russ???
After the break, they talked about the horse race in Iowa. Folowing up on my outrage from last week, let me point out the most important aspect of the Iowa caucuses - they represent nothing.
MR. BRODER: Right. But one point about the Iowa turnout, even if it doubles from what it was four years ago, it's still about a quarter of the Democratic registration in Iowa. Yeah, I love Iowans. They're great people. But it?s not a terribly accurate reflection of the views, even of Iowa Democrats.
MR. SIMON: We all keep writing "this is a grass-roots campaign." There's very few roots out there. As David said last time, 10 percent of the registered Democrats voted; 90 percent did not. It?s a gain for party insiders. And they want to keep it that way.
All Quotes are from NBC News' Meet the Press.
At another point during the roundtable, the pundits said the race between Gephardt and Dean voters in Iowa is a race between drivers of Crown Victorias and Volvos. (Meaning the former are the older, New Deal gaggle pro-Gephardt and the latter are younger, college-educated Deaniacs.) Hrm. Makes me wonder where I fit in. I suppose nowhere since I drive a Crown Victoria (although mine's named a Grand Marquis, but it's the same damn car), I'm college-educated (although unemployed at the moment) and support neither of those candidates.
Onto that other Sunday show.
George really, really likes a high production value to his show. Apparently, young folks are supposed to flock to This Week because it is flashier than Meet the Press. I still prefer substance, but I also still watch the show. (Although the two come on at the same time in LA, and I always watch MTP first while my mind is fresh and more interested in the content.) Right, so he did a montage of crap from the campaign trail - a focus group of undecided voters and interviews with Kerry, Dean, Edwards, and Gephardt. What was most frustrating about the whole thing was George's emphasis on the fact that ABC News has its own bus. WHY???? The whole point of the bus is to get people from one campaign event to another. Yet, when most of the candidates got on "his bus," it started driving. Where exactly was ABC News taking the candidates? What point is there for a news van to drive when the people they're covering are sitting in the damn van????
For once, The List included voices only in the Voices section and images in the Images section. There were only three excerpts from The Funnies and The Note was actually interesting. It included info on how political organizers rate voters. Guess what? They use the same scale as union organizers. (George didn't tell me that, my work as a union organizer did.) It's a 1 to 5 scale. Here's the political version:
1 - Strongly supports candidate x.
2 - Supports x but might be dissuaded by bad weather or pressure from his boss.
3 - Undecided
4 - Anti x.
5- Actively campaigning for x's opponent.
(George only explained 1-3, but I believe my other definitions are correct.)
FYI, here's the union version of the scale:
1 - Pro union Leader. (Actively campaigning for the union by leading coworkers.)
2 - Pro union.
3 - Undecided
4 - Anti union.
5 - Actively involved in the anti union campaign.
George said the work of political organizers in the last ten days is to move the threes to twos and the twos to ones. In union organizing, during the last ten days, you stop talking to undecided people and only work on getting out the yes vote - which means coming up with plans for getting your ones and twos to the polls. And when I say you stop talking, I mean you actively stop engaging anyone else in conversation, and you get your union supporters to stop talking to them as well. The idea is that you try to make people forget that the election is happening, or that it's a big deal, so that the majority of the people who actually turn up at the polls are your supporters. That way, you can win a majority of the vote without winning a majority of the electorate.
Right then. Well, this ends the roundup of the talk shows I watch.